Idea to make the game better

[Mr Argon]

Hello there! I recently had an idea to make the game better (in my oppinion). This could even bring new people to the community, besides, it can take some work to the devs.

My idea is to give players the possibility of creating mods. There are many games that have great communities and keep selling copies and gathering new players because of that. For example: Terraria. It is a very good game, it is complete and gives you a lot of things to do. Re-Logic is going to update Terraria for the last time in 2020, and many years have passed since 1.3.5 (actual version of Terraria), the game is still played due to the mod-making community. Terraria got some great mods such as Overhaul, Thorium or Calamity. Those completely change the game experience making it much more fun when you're up with the Vanilla game.
another example is RimWorld. Ludeon Studios often update the game, but they don't actually add new content. RimWorld is a great game by itself, and if you didn't have enough with the vanilla experience there's a thousand of mods to download, those being available in steam workshop, making so much easier to players to find and test them.

So maybe if we had the possibility to create at least custom accesories or weapons, I think it could be a great upgrade to the game and the community, let me know your oppinion below.

PD: I'm not saying the game isn't good enough, please do not minsunderstand me.

[Mighty Spirit the 2]

We can already make custom texture packs, maps and with the help of scripting custom game modes. Isn't that kinda modding?
It's just not very easy for us "casual" players to do.
Right now i don't feel the need for new weapons, but more cosmetics would be nice.
Edit: Changed my mind, I'd gladly have mod support in the game for patches to change certain game mechanics.

[Mr Argon]

yeah, maybe some sort of content maker so you can make your own cosmetics for campaigns. or even allow modders to create other kind of stuff, imagine someone could add a voice chat or something (it's just an example). Look at what RimWorld modders can do and you'll understand what I'm refering to.

Again, I'm not saying the game's wrong. Just giving ideas

[Odex64]

I totally agree about a feature which allows players to mod or partially edit some game mechanics.
Imagine adding new weapons, tiles/backgrounds or even change guns/melee mechanics; the game will be more fun and chaotic and it will increase the daily players amount as well as keeping the game alive when devs stop making updates. There will be many experienced players who will make mods and keep the community alive as long as possible, perhaps someone will make a "remastered" sfd ver.
But the reality is devs WON'T implement a feature like that. First of all they will have an insane amount of code to write and time to spend(bugs fix included), then there will be a lot of issues and the multiplayer side won't be compatible until they re-write most part of the net code, and last but not less important they recently finished to release the game and as they said there will be just small patches to fix some bugs till the game dies.
I just hope when the main server will be off(the server which holds all the small servers inside the game), they'll release a "special" tool which allow players to host their own main server and allow other players to create normal servers on it, in order to let the few remaining people playing this wonderful game.

[Mr Argon]

that's it. maybe someone finds a way or something, I mean, good things never die at all, I like this game a lot and many people will find their own ways to keen doing what they like.

[Odex64]

that's it. maybe someone finds a way or something, I mean, good things never die at all, I like this game a lot and many people will find their own ways to keen doing what they like.

I knew some scripters who were trying to make a code injector for sfd to make "mods", but it was no use. Their code is too obfuscated, it has a hash checker too.

[Mr Argon]

hmmm... anyways, I don't like the idea of thinking SFD will die, maybe it'll get reducted to a little community, but is ok for me, as long as the fans don't lose interest or become assholes just because they're minority .

[mgtr14]

It would be nice if we could actually change some disliked features of the game. Adding new weapons and accessories won't be enough IMO.

It would be nice to finally be able to make a mod that disables RNG elements such as dodge fail, grenade/mine duds and crits; removes grab entirely; nerfs throw damage all around; removes power weapons, redundant weapons and weapons that aren't fun in general; and removes grenade, mine and shuriken stuns.

[Mr Argon]

Yes, that would be great to make every player play SFD the best way he likes. Also, if anyone thinks this idea could ruin the game by allowing them to make anything they want, I trust the community and I do believe that if they actually had these features, they won't end up downloading dumb content. (Plus, I think that it's very hard to create "dumb" content for this kind of game, because almost anything can result into something funny. The dumbest content I seen was created by me, and it's a custom script that changes player skins and bot names into a funny-looking character)

[Odex64]

It would be nice if we could actually change some disliked features of the game. Adding new weapons and accessories won't be enough IMO.

It would be nice to finally be able to make a mod that disables RNG elements such as dodge fail, grenade/mine duds and crits; removes grab entirely; nerfs throw damage all around; removes power weapons, redundant weapons and weapons that aren't fun in general; and removes grenade, mine and shuriken stuns.

You didn't get me. I was talking about some special tools which allow us to edit some basic game mechanics or add new stuff (which is not possible nowadays); and most things you mentioned above are possible with scripting, and I don't think all players will find fun nerfed/removed weapons (the game will be just more "competitive").

Yes, that would be great to make every player play SFD the best way he likes. Also, if anyone thinks this idea could ruin the game by allowing them to make anything they want, I trust the community and I do believe that if they actually had these features, they won't end up downloading dumb content. (Plus, I think that it's very hard to create "dumb" content for this kind of game, because almost anything can result into something funny. The dumbest content I seen was created by me, and it's a custom script that changes player skins and bot names into a funny-looking character)

But Argon is right, every player can edit the game as he likes. But the real problem here is not everything is possible with Scripting and we need something to keep the game alive when devs will stop making updates.These are my thoughts, if someone has a better idea let me know it

[Mr Argon]

Maybe custom content for campaigns like tilesets, accesories, interactive objects or even triggers, along with an easier way to create texturepacks could be very interesting.

Off Topic

By the way, I just saw that RimWorld got a major update from 1.0 to 1.1. The devs made a mod called "Vanilla Animals Expanded" part of the core game and credited the author. I like that kind of stuff bc it helps developers create their game and builds up a very friendly community. Just think of the thousand of programmers that aren't part of a developing team but they could actually help other indie developers.

[Mighty Spirit the 2]

It would be nice if we could actually change some disliked features of the game. Adding new weapons and accessories won't be enough IMO.

It would be nice to finally be able to make a mod that disables RNG elements such as dodge fail, grenade/mine duds and crits; removes grab entirely; nerfs throw damage all around; removes power weapons, redundant weapons and weapons that aren't fun in general; and removes grenade, mine and shuriken stuns.

I agree with a lot of things you say, although removing grab entirely seems a bit harsh. But i guess thats just going to have to be that way until we get an effective counter. I'm unsure if you could fix the random boucing with scripts either, seems to be something in the coding maybe? I'd certainly like to get rid of this insane tripping and getting cooldowns when we aren't suppose to. Ability to quickly jump out of rolls and cancel attacks (without dealing continued damage) should be reimplemented, at the same time bigger stamina as right now it is crippling us (perform attack, kicking, jumping and sprinting in a melee fight, soon you will be slow and out of breath). I feel like sprinting was faster before too. Removing basooka is a questionable choice, as its kinda SFD's trademark move.
"removes grenade, mine and shuriken stuns. " - what do you mean with this?

It would be nice if we could actually change some disliked features of the game. Adding new weapons and accessories won't be enough IMO.

It would be nice to finally be able to make a mod that disables RNG elements such as dodge fail, grenade/mine duds and crits; removes grab entirely; nerfs throw damage all around; removes power weapons, redundant weapons and weapons that aren't fun in general; and removes grenade, mine and shuriken stuns.

You didn't get me. I was talking about some special tools which allow us to edit some basic game mechanics or add new stuff (which is not possible nowadays); and most things you mentioned above are possible with scripting, and I don't think all players will find fun nerfed/removed weapons (the game will be just more "competitive").

And what's wrong with that? Competative is where this game used to be great at. That and custom content making is what keeps the game alive. I don't think more chaos and insta deaths are going to make the game more popular or more fun. You want chaos? Just activate deathmatch script, Uberkick, ramp up the speed, set respawns and your in for the time of your life: https://youtu.be/NR45H7d_Etc (f.ex. Ahh, how i miss the beta days)

Yes, that would be great to make every player play SFD the best way he likes. Also, if anyone thinks this idea could ruin the game by allowing them to make anything they want, I trust the community and I do believe that if they actually had these features, they won't end up downloading dumb content. (Plus, I think that it's very hard to create "dumb" content for this kind of game, because almost anything can result into something funny. The dumbest content I seen was created by me, and it's a custom script that changes player skins and bot names into a funny-looking character)

The more options and customizability, easier content making and more stable servers the better.

But Argon is right, every player can edit the game as he likes. But the real problem here is not everything is possible with Scripting and we need something to keep the game alive when devs will stop making updates.These are my thoughts, if someone has a better idea let me know it

The devs. aren't going to release the code for their game. In this post i asked how to do some tiny eddits to the game: https://www.mythologicinteractiveforums ... f=8&t=3886
But i got stuck. So fundemental game changes aren't going to be possible anyhow. Not sure if you could change how the game looks and plays with scripting, i'm guessing no. That makes total conversion mods impossible for now (if you meant something like big changes).